1. Joel,

    1) There’ll be the nutrition facts and a full ingredient list on the label of each product?
    2) Your book & DVD are top quality products so it’s a great news for me that you have a line of supplements available soon. I’ll definitely buy them from you from now on, as long as the price is affordable. Why not add all other supplements that you & your athletes use (whey, casein, multivitamin & minerals, calcium, creatine, beta-alanine…) to your line so I can buy them from one company instead of multiple companies (different quality, shipping cost…)?

    1. 1) Yes, there will be nutritional facts and a full ingredient list on the label of each product and I’ll be posting those on the site soon.
      2) Aside from whey protein, I will inded be offering all the products I and my athletes use. There already is a multivitamin/mineral being offered in the line, that’s the Ultra product you see in the picture. The two preworkout products I’m testing and formulating now to add to the line will have the creatine, beta-alanine, etc. One will be for CNS function and the other will be for muscle function. Once these two are added, the line will have everything I take and my athletes take, aside from the whey, and the prices will all be reasonable.

        1. There are already a million whey proteins out there, plenty of which are good and cheap. There’s nothing I could do to really make a better whey protein or make one that’s any less expensive and the big companies that make whey and sell it do such high volumes it’s insane.

          I could never produce and sell the volume of whey it would take to offer a high quality product at reasonable prices at this point. I’d end up with a product no better than a lot of what’s already out there and I’d have to charge more for it, which isn’t something I”m interested in doing.

          Maybe down the road I’ll come up with a way to make it work, but it just doesn’t make sense to start out. Personally, I like the big bag of Whey by Cytosport from Costco for $30, can’t beat that.

          1. There’s no Costco near my area, only Sam’s Club (it has nothing good!)

            Are there other brands for whey that you would recommend?

  2. Definitely interested in hearing more about your product line. I’ve tried damn near every supplement with the exception of PH’s. Curious to see what active ingredients you are utilizing and what the price points will be.

    @Thuy, if you can’t go to Costco, Dymatize sells pretty good whey for cheap and you can buy it online. Amazon has a lot of good deals on supplements too.

    1. There’s a million decent whey products out there. Usually anything by Cytosport, Champion, Syntrax, Beverly, Dymatize, Optimum, Labrada and a few others is going to be good enough. Find something that you like the taste of, that digests well and that’s reasonably priced and it’s pretty hard to go wrong.

      I’ll be posting the labels and active ingredients on the site by next week so everyone can see exacty what’s in everything. The price point right now looks like it’ll be about $29 per bottle of each product, which should last 4-6 weeks depending on use.

  3. I’m in for some of the multi! It’s so hard to find one that doesn’t assume you’re a heavy drinker.

    Anyway, WRT the whey protein, wouldn’t the same be true for fish oil?

    1. Not really, there’s millions of good whey proteins. The only other fish oil products I like, aside from the one I’ll be selling, are by Nordic Naturals and Carlsons. The BioForce one is the only one I’ve used that is emulsified, which has been shown in the research I’ve seen to increase absorbtion and it changes the texture so it’s not greasy and makes it actually taste good. It definitely doesn’t taste like fish oil and I like it better than any other fish oil I’ve used, that’s why I’m including it in the line.

        1. There’s definitely some research to show that mg per mg it’s absorbed better when it’s emulsified than just in capsules. Does it make a huge difference? Most likely not, but personally, I prefer to use a good manufacturer that I know makes a high quality product than buy something cheap and besides generally oils are less expensive than capsules anyway. Most people just don’t like the taste or texture but that’s not an issue with this fish oil, it tastes good and has a creamy texture. I’ve used Nordic Naturals, Carlson’s, Pure Encapsulations, Designs for Health and Costco fish oils and this is the one I like best.

  4. Hey Joel
    I will def. get some of you’re Bio force nutrition supplements. I have taken many supplements in the past and believe like you most are just money making scemes. I do take Lovaza which is Pharmaceutical grade fish oil, but I would be interested in most of the other products. I just had rotator cuff surgery and getting back to where I was will take some time and effort. I believe good supplementation can help speed recovery and take me off the anti-inflamatory’s I am currently taking. Truthfully Joel ,I trust you and like what you are trying to do with you’re web site and would rather give you money than other Nutritional or Vitamin companies.
    Steve F

    1. I haven’t seen this report before but I’ll take a look at it more thorughly and give you my thoughts. It’s definitely always good to choose supplement companies wisely.

    1. No worries, I won’t be sticking my name on the front of the bottle and charging $80 for anything any time soon. Poliquin used to have some really good info years ago, I used to always read his articles back in the MM2k days. He just went off the deep end a few years ago for whatever reason.

      1. Yeah, he seems to gear everything towards using a product. His recommendation for BCAA’s are ridiculous. But a lot of people swear by him. I don’t know if it’s loyalty or marketing at it’s very best.

    1. It’ll be available for sale next week. I have all the products in stock, I just have to make the web pages for each of the products and put everything into the shopping cart and such.

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